John Radcliffe Warren

Male 1635 - 1691  (~ 56 years)


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  • Name John Radcliffe Warren 
    Birth ~1635  Rappahannock County, Virginia, a British Colony in America Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2
    Gender Male 
    Death 25 Nov 1691  Westmorland, Virginia, a British Colony in America Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2
    Person ID I51368  The Hennessee Family
    Last Modified 20 May 2018 

    Father Thomas Warren,   b. 25 May 1604, Stockport, Cheshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 20 Dec 1677, Surry County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 73 years) 
    Mother (Susan Greenleaf),   b. ~1610, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. ~1670, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age ~ 60 years) 
    Marriage Y  [2
    Family ID F19157  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Rachel Williams,   b. 1635, Rappahannock County, Virginia, a British Colony in America Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 11 Feb 1706, Essex County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 71 years) 
    Marriage ~1661  Virginia, a British Colony Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2
    Children 
     1. Thomas Warren,   b. 28 Mar 1682, Rappahannock County, Virginia, a British Colony in America Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 13 Apr 1749, Spotsylvania County, Virginia Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 67 years)
    Family ID F19156  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 30 Apr 2023 

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - ~1635 - Rappahannock County, Virginia, a British Colony in America Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • John Redcliffe Radcliffe Warren
      Born about 1635 in (Old) Rappahannock County, Virginia Colonymap
      HIDE ANCESTORS
      Son of Thomas Warren Sr. [uncertain] and Susan (Greenleaf) Warren [uncertain]
      Brother of John Warren [half]
      Husband of Rachel (Williams) Warren — married about 1661 in Virginia
      DESCENDANTS descendants
      Father of Samuel Warren, James Warren, Elizabeth Warren, Unknown Warren, Rebecca (Warren) Stevens, Rachel Warren, William Warren, William H Warren Sr, John Warren, John Warren, Thomas Warren, Thomas Warren, Elizabeth Warren and Unknown Warren
      Died 25 Nov 1691 in Westmorland County, Colonial Virginia
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      Biography
      John R. Warren[1]

      Note: John "R." Warren is used as an identifier, because John signed documents using an "R" (p 11). Others who were closely associated with John also signed with an "R," which is sometimes assumed to denote "Royalist" (many escaped Cromwell's England after the official 1649 opening for settlement of the Rappahannock Valley). However, on the Samuel Bloomfield deed of 1678, John no longer used the "R," but signed with a unique symbol (pictured on page 13). John's wife Rachel also twice used an "R" as her signature, once backwards, and on her will she added a dot in the loop (p 35). She once used the unique symbol, and slanted it (p 31).[1]

      Sometimes called "John Radcliff Warren," without evidence or citation. Note: Middle names were extremely unusual before about 1800 (except for royalty).

      Uncertain Origin
      John Warren was probably born in England. His birth date, birth place, and parents are not known. Birth date, 1635, is a guess based on his marriage c. 1655. Seems this date is used by genealogists to identify this John Warren from others of the same name.

      This profile has been disconnected from Thomas Warren as father. We have no evidence that he was John's father.

      DNA
      John Warren has been placed in the Old Rappahannock Warren Dna haplogroup.[2] HAPLOGROUP R1b1a2a1a1b4 all kits relating to this John incl these markers.

      Of course, as Stephen Ballard emphasizes, "The [DNA] information is useful only when combined with a well-researched family history."

      Lack of a well-researched family history among the participants has emerged as a major stumbling block; "The cruel irony of genetic genealogy is that usually those being tested are those with the least amount of knowledge about their families."[3]

      Immigration
      Holland Warren suggests that among the immigrant candidates named John Warren, only one is a possibility. On 24 October 1650, Sir Thomas "Luntsford" patented 3, 423 acres on the south side of the Rappahannock, for the transportation of 65 persons; among them was a "Mr. Warren."[4] However, there is no proof that this was the identical John Warren.

      John may have arrived in Virginia sometime before 21 June 1658, when he probably appointed his "loveing friend Mr. Rich. Browne" to represent him in an appeal to the Quarter Court. This was regarding some sort of civil suit against Stephen Tichnor, details of which have been lost to history (pp 8-9).[1] This may be our first record of John Warren in Virginia; however there is no proof that he was the identical John Warren.

      Richard Browne "may have been" the identical Richard Browne who was transported to Virginia by Capt. Daniell Gookin on 4 November 1642 (p 9).[1] Among those transported was a Thomas Warren, who is assumed to have been the Thomas Warren of Surry County.[4][1] However the connection is minimally circumstantial, because in 1656, a Thomas Warren was found at Lancaster County, near the Gookin patent. This was more likely the man transported and not Thomas Warren of Surry County.[1] There is no evidence associating John "R" Warren with Thomas Warren of Surry County.

      Disputed Marriage
      John is assumed to have married to Rachel Williams, daughter of John Williams, of Occupatia Creek.[1]

      The date (5 May 1679, or 1665) and place (St George, Spotsylvania) of their marriage are claimed in various user-contributed data bases, without evidence or citation.

      Whatever date is used, a patent from 1 June 1663 to Mr. William Pierce (Perce) for 4,054 acres in Farnham Parish, Rappahannock County, in return for transporting 81 persons included: Rachel, Margaret, and Margery Williams, thought to have been the daughters of John Williams (p 14).[1] Of course, the date a patent was issued was often years after the actual voyage(s) of those transported.

      We have circumstantial evidence that the Rachel who married John Warren was a daughter of John Williams. The Warren land bordered the Williams property. In addition, these gifts and deed are evidence of the close ties between the Williams and Warren families. On 2 December 1679, John Williams made a gift of a calf to Rebecca Warren, daughter of John Warren (p 15).[1] On 28 January 1689, Richard West (John Warren's partner) sold 300 acres on Occupatia Creek to John Williams (p 15).[1]

      Others believe that Rachel was a daughter of William Sargent. In his will, written on 14 April 1683, William Sargent, of Rappahannock County, left 100 acres to John's son, William Warren (pp 21-22). However William would receive the land only on the condition that Sargent's own son, George, die before reaching the age of 21. George must have lived, because William Warren never received the property.[1] However, Holland Warren, in his follow-up book, Warrens and related families of North Carolina and Virginia Revisited, which focuses on John R. Warren, reached the conclusion that, "In fact there was no Rachel Sargent, she has been created in someone's imagination."[5]

      Children
      Children of John and Rachel Warren:[1]

      Elizabeth Warren, ; m Edward Martin
      Thomas Warrenb c. 1682; m Mary
      William Warren, b c.1680, d 1726; m Elizabeth
      Rebecca Warren, m Stevens
      Rachel Warren
      John Warren, Jr
      probably Samuel Warren
      Property and Positions
      John was often associated with Richard West. On 28 January 1667[?/8], John and Richard paid Cornelius Noell 1500 pounds of tobacco for about 275 acres which lay on the south side of the Rappahannock "in the freshes," about four miles from the river, on the main branch of Occupacia Creek "beginning at the head of a valley on the north side of the branch, running across the same and over Chikahomany Indian Path."[1]

      John sold this property on 6 March 1668 to his partner, Richard West, but it was returned to the family (p 11).[1] After John's death, some thirty years later, his widow and sons re-purchased this and adjacent land (p 8).[1]

      John and his family were members of the Sittenburne Parish of the Anglican Church.

      Death and Legacy
      John Warren wrote his will on 25 November 1691 at Essex? or Surry County, Virginia. However his body was found and identified in Westmoreland County.

      John and Rachel were probably buried at St. Annes Parish Church, located at the confluence of Occupacia Creek and the Rappahannock River.

      Research Notes
      County Names and Geography
      Note: Lancaster County formed from Northumberland in 1651, and Westmoreland also formed from Northumberland in 1653. Rappahannock (Old) County formed from Lancaster in 1656. Westmoreland County still exists today, located in the Northern Neck. The Rappahannock River divided Westmoreland County on the south from Rappahannock (Old) County on the north. Essex County formed from Rappahannock (Old) in 1692.[6] Occupatia Creek enters the Rappahannock River from the south side.[7] The waterways were the highways of Virginia in the 17th Century.

      John was born in 1640. He passed away in 1691. [8]

      Sources
      ? 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11 1.12 1.13 1.14 Warren, Holland D., 1990 Warrens and Related Families of North Carolina and Virginia Lynchburg, VA: (Published by the author) ExLibrisRosetta accessed 4 June 2016 (Pages 5- ).
      ? Family Tree DNA, Warren Family Surname DNA Project - Y-DNA Classic Chart Gene By Gene, Ltd., 2001-2016.
      ? Ballard, Stephen M., Ballard of Virginia accessed 9 March 2016.
      ? 4.0 4.1 Nugent, Nell Marion, 1934 Cavaliers and Pioneers: Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants, 1623-1800. [1st ed.] Richmond: Dietz Print Co., Archive.org accessed 4 June 2016, (Vol 1, Page 200).
      ? Warren, Rod, (18 August 2006) "John Warren (b. 1635, d. 25 Nov 1691)." Warren, Riley, Wilson, Waddell, Pitman, Reis Families: Information about John Warren, Citing Warrens and related families of North Carolina and Virginia Revisited, by Holland, Page 73, accessed 5 June 2016.
      ? Germanna Colonies, History of County Formations in Virginia 1617-1995. Germanna Colonies Family History: The State of Virginia, accessed 3 June 2016.
      ? Virginia Department of Historic Resources, (22 May 2013) "Occupacia - Rappahannock Historic District." accessed 3 June 2016.
      ? Source will be added by Melissa Moore by 3 Apr 2018.
      See also:

      Warren, Holland D., 1999 Warrens and related families of North Carolina and Virginia Revisited. Lynchburg, VA: Warwick House Pub., Page 73.
      Ancestry Family Trees Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.
      Pedigree Resource File CD 49

      end of biography [2]

  • Sources 
    1. [S12828] "Jesse J. Moore Sr. (1743 - 1827", Ancestors, Biography & Descendants, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Moore-14885, abstra.

    2. [S12829] "John Redcliffe Radcliffe Warren (~1635-1691)", Biography, Ancestors & Descendants, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Warren.