Joan Clifford

Female Bef 1446 - 1491  (~ 45 years)


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  • Name Joan Clifford 
    Born Bef 1446  (Conisborough Castle, Doncaster) England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2
    Gender Female 
    Died 10 Aug 1491  England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2
    Person ID I51341  The Hennessee Family
    Last Modified 18 May 2018 

    Father Thomas Clifford, 8th Baron de Clifford,   b. 25 Mar 1414, Cumbria, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 22 May 1455, First Battle of St. Albans, Hertfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 41 years) 
    Mother Joan Dacre, Baroness Clifford,   b. Naworth Castle, Brampton, Cumbria, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married 0___ 1424  [3, 4, 5, 6
    Family ID F14961  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Richard Musgrave,   b. ~1437,   d. 1491  (Age ~ 53 years) 
    Married Y  [1
    Children 
     1. Edward Musgrave,   b. 1461, Edenhall, Cumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 23 May 1542  (Age 81 years)
    Last Modified 18 Aug 2018 
    Family ID F19147  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - Bef 1446 - (Conisborough Castle, Doncaster) England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 10 Aug 1491 - England Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • Joan Musgrave formerly Clifford
      Born before 1446 in England
      HIDE ANCESTORS
      Daughter of Thomas Clifford and Joan (Dacre) Clifford
      Sister of Matilda (Clifford) Sutton, John Clifford, Roger Clifford, Elizabeth (Clifford) Plumpton, Anne (Clifford) Conyers, Thomas Clifford, Robert Clifford and Margaret (Clifford) Carre
      Wife of Richard Musgrave married about 1460 in England
      DESCENDANTS descendants
      Mother of Edward Musgrave
      Died 10 Aug 1491 in England

      Biography
      Father Sir Thomas Clifford, 8th Lord Clifford, Sheriff of Westmoreland b. 25 Mar 1414, d. 22 May 1455

      Mother Joan Dacre[1] d. b May 1453


      Joan Clifford married Sir Simon Musgrave, son of Thomas Musgrave and Johanna Stapleton.[2]


      Family

      Sir Simon Musgrave d. 10 Aug 1491
      Child

      Sir Edward Musgrave b. c 1461, d. 23 May 1542
      Sources
      ? Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 216
      ? The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, by George Edward Cokayne, Vol. IX, p. 438
      Marlyn_Lewis
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Clifford,_8th_Baron_de_Clifford
      Clifford Pedigree: Descent of the Barony of Clifford
      (m a Musgrave). Collins says "Simon Musgrave".[3]

      Such a Joan appears in Musgrave pedigrees marrying a Sir Richard. For example here. Cracrofts page also calls him Sir Richard.

      Parentage
      She is sometimes shown as the daughter of Richard Fiennes, however, there is no record he had such a daughter. [4]

      Her parents have a daughter Joan, but not a separate daughter Jane, so they two may well be one. However, there is not enough data yet about either to determine if the two should be merged or not.

      Notes
      Husband appears in some pedigrees as "Simon Musgrave" and sometimes John. But Joan appears in Musgrave pedigrees marrying a Sir Richard. For example here. Cracrofts page and Foster visitation also calls him Sir Richard.

      end of profile [2]

  • Sources 
    1. [S12819] "Catherine (Musgrave) Graham (1600 - 1649)", Pedigree & Registry, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Musgrave-439, abstracted.

    2. [S12820] "Joan (Clifford) Musgrave (bef. 1446 - 1491)", Pedigree & Registry, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Clifford-2152, abstrac.

    3. [S5346] https://histfam.familysearch.org//ahnentafel.php?personID=I15862&tree=EuropeRoyalNobleHous&parentset=0&generations=6.

    4. [S7359] "Philippa Neville, Baroness Dacre (1386 - 1453)" biogrpahy, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippa_de_Neville.

    5. [S7448] "Queen Elizabeth II Pedigree", http://famouskin.com/family_group.php?name=7516+queen+elizabeth+ii&ahnum=398577.

    6. [S9030] "Thomas Clifford, 8th Baron de Clifford" biography, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Clifford,_8th_Baron_de_Clifford.