Elizabeth Beauchamp

Female 1348 - Aft 1411  (~ 64 years)


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  • Name Elizabeth Beauchamp 
    Born ~ 1348  Ryme, Dorsetshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2
    Gender Female 
    Died Aft 1411  (England) Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2
    Person ID I48039  The Hennessee Family
    Last Modified 22 Sep 2017 

    Father John Beauchamp,   b. ~1315, Ryme, Dorsetshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 8 Apr 1348  (Age ~ 32 years) 
    Mother Margaret Whalesborough,   b. ~1328, Lancarffe, Cornwall, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1366  (Age ~ 38 years) 
    Married Y  [2
    Family ID F19066  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family William Fortescue, II,   b. ~ 1345, Modbury, Devonshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1411, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 67 years) 
    Married 1370-1374  [1, 2, 3
    Children 
     1. John Fortescue,   b. ~ 1380, Combe, Devonshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. ~ 1435  (Age ~ 55 years)
    Last Modified 18 Jun 2018 
    Family ID F17696  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - ~ 1348 - Ryme, Dorsetshire, England Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • Elizabeth Fortescue formerly Beauchamp aka Branscombe, Heiress of Ryme
      Born before 1349 in Ryme Intrinseca, Sherborne, Dorset
      Ancestors ancestors
      Daughter of John Beauchamp and Margaret (Whalesburgh) Beauchamp
      Sister of Joane (Beauchamp) Chalons
      Wife of Richard De Branscombe — married about 1368 [location unknown]
      Wife of William Fortescue II — married about 1374 [location unknown]
      Descendants descendants
      Mother of William Fortescue III and John Fortescue
      Died after 1410 in England

      Biography

      Quoted at The Ancestry of Gordon McCrea Fisher:

      "ELIZABETH BEAUCHAMP, dau. & event. coh., b. by 1349, liv. 1410, Whympston in psh. of Modbury, co. Devon; m. (1) Richard, s. Adam de Branscombe; m. (2) by 1394, prob. much earlier, William Fortescue, lord of Whympston, co. Devon, b. say 1345, liv. 1410, s. William Fortescue, lord of Whympston, co. Devon, by Alice, dau. Walter de Strechlegh. In 1401, William and Elizabeth sued her sister Joan's husband, Sir Robert Challons, re. tenements in Oulescombe and Buckerell, co. Devon, which had been possessed by Elizabeth's brother, Sir Thomas Beauchamp. In 1410, license for an oratory was granted by Bishop Stafford to William Fortescue, senior, and Elizabeth, his wife, and also to William Fortescue, junior, and Matilda, alias Mabilla, his wife, for the mansion of the said William (senior) at Whympston." --- Weis & Sheppard, *Ancestral Roots ... *, 7th Edition, 1992, p 215

      Per a 2010 post by Joe Cochoit at the soc.genealogy.medieval forum:

      In line 246E &246B of AR7 developed by Douglas Richardson [1]:

      Humphrey Beauchamp of Ryme, co. Dorset m. | John Beauchamp m. 1st Joan m. 2nd Alice De Nonant | John Beauchamp (d. 8 April 1349) m. Margaret Whalesburgh | Elizabeth Beauchamp m. William Fortescue

      Among the references given is the History of the Family of Fortescue[2] which says Elizabeth Beauchamp was daughter of Sir John Beauchamp of Ryme who was the great-grandson Robert De Bello Campo of Hatch, and eventual heir of her brother Thomas who d.s.p. (so far so good). Also cited is the IPM of John Beauchamp who died Wednesday before Easter 23 Ed. III (8 April 1349). [3] Properties held by these inquisitions were Wobernforde, Bokerel, and Oulescombe which link him to the previous generations of Beauchamp of Ryme and subsequently to his sisters, Joan and Elizabeth.

      In the IPM, he is called John son of John son of John Beauchamp of Rym (hmmm, too many Johns). Furthermore, his heir is his brother (not son) Thomas, age 2 (so John also d.s.p.). He is also called John son of John son of John in the Fine Rolls. [4] This Thomas de Bello Campo made his proof of age in 1369. [5] Thomas died by 1400 when his wife Margaret had dower in Teynghervy. [6] In 1401, Elizabeth and William Fortescue were suing Joan and Robert Challons re. Aulescombe [Awliscombe, Oulescombe] and Bokerelle [Buckerell] which had been possessed by their brother Sir Thomas Beauchamp. [7] From this IPM and suit it would seem Elizabeth Beauchamp is not the daughter of the John Beauchamp who died 8 April 1349 but she is actually his sister, and sister of Thomas who was the heir in 1349.

      The IPM of a Richard Beauchamp (d. 3 May 1350) is a little confusing. [8] It says Sir John Beauchamp of Ryme gave him the manor of Teynghervy (purchased by Humphrey Beauchamp of Ryme in 1299 [9]) for life, this John was ‘lately deceased,’ and then Richard died, so the manor descended to John son of John, and when “this John the son, died” (wait he was already dead!!) the manor descended to his brother Thomas. This same Thomas (age 2 ˝) is the heir of Richard. So how does Richard fit into this? He can’t be the brother of John III, could he be a brother of John II? Does this imply John II (“lately deceased”) died after John III (died 8 April 1349)? Does the phrase “John son of John son of John” imply that son and father and possibly grandfather could all still be living in 1349?

      So, Elizabeth Beauchamp is not the daughter of John III Beauchamp who died 8 April 1349 as stated in AR7, but is actually his sister. However, they are both the children of John II son of John I, which matches AR7. Now, John III was clearly married to Margaret who married secondly Richard Branscombe, [10] but is she Margaret Whalesborough? The Challons pedigree in the Visitations of Somerset says Joan Beauchamp’s mother is Margaret Whalesborough. [11] This would mean John II Beauchamp (“lately deceased” 3 May 1350) married Margaret Whalesborough, while his son John III Beauchamp (died 8 April 1349) married a 2nd Margaret.

      I. John Beauchamp I of Ryme

      i. John Beauchamp II (‘lately deceased’ on 3 May 1350) m. Margaret Whalesborough

      a. John III (d.s.p. 8 April 1349 by IPM) m. Margaret Unknown who m. 2ndly by Richard Branscombe
      b. Thomas (b. 6 Jan. 1348, d.s.p. before 1401)
      c. Elizabeth (m. William Fortescue)
      d. Joan (m. Sir Robert Challons)

      ii. Richard (d.s.p. 3 May 1350 by IPM)

      1. AR7 Beauchamp http://tinyurl.com/y7o6dxs

      2. History of the Family of Fortescue by Thomas Fortescue, Lord Cleremont p. 6,7 http://tinyurl.com/y7c4vcc (AR7 also sites page 484 which has no useful info in either volume)

      3. Cal. of IPM IX p. 262-263, of John Beauchamp http://tinyurl.com/y6d4mv2

      4. Cal. of Fine Rolls VI p. 229, 260, 381 Wardship of lands and marriage of Thomas Beauchamp to Richard Branscombe http://tinyurl.com/yhuuvcz

      5. Notes & Queries for Somerset and Dorset vol. IX p. 247 Proof of age Thomas Bello Campo son of John 1369 (born Feast of the Epiphany 21 Ed. III, 6 Jan. 1348) http://tinyurl.com/y3xdpt8

      6. Devon Record Office 3799M-0/ET/20/1 National Archives A2A http://tinyurl.com/y7aue4d

      7. Cal. of Close Rolls Henry IV vol. 1 p. 480

      8. Cal. of IPM IX p. 387, of Richard Beauchaump http://tinyurl.com/yysbvzl

      9. Collections towards a description of the county of Devon, by Sir William Pole p. 251 http://tinyurl.com/y669ltn

      10. CCR X p. 242-243 http://tinyurl.com/y2e6qwu http://tinyurl.com/y7pnjem

      11. Visitation of Somerset, Challons p. 99 http://tinyurl.com/y3mcszr
      Sources

      Royal Ancestry by Douglas Richardson Vol. IV p. 513

      Richardson, Douglas, and Kimball G. Everingham. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families. Vol. 1. Salt Lake City, UT.: Douglas Richardson., 2013, p. 111.

      Frederick Lewis Weis, "Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists," 7th Ed.
      Clermont, Thomas Fortescue, Lord. A History of the Family of Fortescue in All Its Branches, 2nd ed. (Ellis & White, London, 1880) Page 3

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  • Sources 
    1. [S10680] "Sir John Fortescue" profile, which was abstracted, downloaded and published Friday, March 17th, 2017 by David A. Hennes.

    2. [S12628] "Elizabeth (Beauchamp) Fortescue (bef. 1349 - aft. 1410)", Biography, Ancestors & Descendants, https://www.wikitree.com/.

    3. [S10681] "John Fortescue (Captain of Meaux)" biography, which was abstracted, downloaded and published Friday, March 17th, 2017 b.