Sir Robert Ogle, III

Male 1372 - 1435  (62 years)


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  • Name Robert Ogle 
    Title Sir 
    Suffix III 
    Birth 24 Dec 1372  Ogle Castle, Whalton, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Gender Male 
    Death 12 Aug 1435  Ogle Castle, Whalton, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2
    • Ogle Castle (grid reference NZ14057908) is a former fortified manor house at Ogle, near Whalton, Northumberland. It is a Scheduled Ancient Monument and a Grade I listed building.[1]

      William the Conqueror granted a deed to Humphrey de Hoggell (Ogle) to enjoy "all the liberties and royalties of his manor" after the conquest.[2] The Ogle family held the estate from before the Norman Conquest until 1597 when it passed by marriage to the Cavendish family and later to Hollis. Sir Robert Ogle was granted a licence to crenellate in 1341. David II of Scotland was brought here having been captured at the Battle of Neville's Cross in 1346.

      Today only the west wing remains from that period. This was the tower house of the medieval tower which had a projecting latrine. Still showing on the western and northern sides are parts of a double moat around a platform 45M across. The manor building that makes up most of today's still standing Ogle Castle appears to be 16th and 17th century work that the tower house was later incorporated into.



      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogle_Castle
    Person ID I43834  The Hennessee Family
    Last Modified 29 Nov 2017 

    Family Maud Grey,   b. ~ 1382, Wark-Upon-Tweed, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Aft 21 Aug 1451 (Age ~ 69 years) 
    Marriage 21 May 1399  [1, 2
    Children 
     1. Constance Ogle,   b. ~ 1402, Kirkley, Ponteland, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Aft 6 Oct 1460 (Age ~ 58 years)
    Family ID F15943  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 30 Apr 2023 

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - 24 Dec 1372 - Ogle Castle, Whalton, Northumberland, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDeath - 12 Aug 1435 - Ogle Castle, Whalton, Northumberland, England Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • Sir Robert (Robert III) Ogle
      Born 1379 in Ogle Castle, Northumberland, England
      ANCESTORS ancestors
      Son of Robert (Ogle) de Ogle and Joan (Heton) Ogle
      Brother of John (Ogle) Bertram
      Husband of Matilda (Grey) Ogle — married 21 May 1399 [location unknown]
      DESCENDANTS descendants
      Father of Unknown (Ogle) Whitfield, Unknown (Ogle) Lisle, Constance (Ogle) Mitford, Margaret Ogle, John Ogle Esq, Robert (Ogle) de Ogle, Elizabeth Ogle, William Ogle esq and Jannet (Ogle) Manners
      Died 12 Aug 1435 in Ogle Castle, Northumberland, England
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      Categories: Battle of Piperdean | Northumberland Ogles.

      Preceded by
      Baron of Hepple, Sir Richard Ogle, Knt. Sir Robert Ogle
      abt 1379 – 1437 Succeeded by
      Robert, Baron of Ogle
      Sir Robert Ogle III[1]

      b. c.1370[2] 1379;[3] 1380/6.[1]

      d. 1436/7[3][4]


      Sir Robert Ogle III (b. 1380/6),[2][1] succeeded his father in 1409 ... but he isn't remembered for being fair.[5][6] Along with 200 men, he stole Bothal castle and manor from his younger brother John Bertram. [6][7]


      It wasn't just a simple walk-in, either. Robert and his forces attacked the castle for four days in 1410.[7][1]


      One chronicler said Robert was jealous,[7] while Parliament still refers to Bertram as the family "favorite."[5]


      To say the least, Robert's actions were frowned upon. John complained to Parliament, and Robert had to go before the King to explain himself ... then give the property back![6][7] But at least some redemption was bound to happen...


      According to Ogle & Engler (2012), Robert was the more powerful of the two sons, and had the favor of the king. After he, "satisfied the council," his "lands were immediately restored." That same month, he landed on the commission looking for a truce with Scotland.


      Well after the family feud, Robert helped the Earl of Northumberland capture James, King of Scotland in 1423. Three years later, he was Northumberland's Sheriff,[6][8] and in 1434 he and his son Robert, 1st Baron Ogle, were both serving as commissioners to keep the peace with Scotland.[9]


      By 1436/7, Robert died,[6][4] and was succeeded by his son and heir ... Sir Robert Ogle who became the first Baron, Lord Ogle.[6]

      Parents

      Robert Ogle and Joan Heaton[10][11]

      Marriage

      m. (21 May 1399) Maud Grey [3][2] Issue:[6][12]

      Sir Robert Ogle[6][13] (b. 1406)[9]
      Sir John[6] or John Ogle, Esq.[13]
      Sir William[6] or William Ogle, Esq[13][14]
      Margaret[6] "Margery" m. Bertram Harbottle
      Isabel (Elizabeth) m. John Middleton
      Constance m. Sir John Mitford, Knt.[13]
      Anne m. William Heron
      Jenetta "Joan or Janet" m. Robert Manners
      dau. m. Matthew Whitfield[13]
      dau. m. John Lilburne[13]
      dau. m. Thomas Lisle[13]
      Occupation

      ante 1408: knight.[3]
      1417: sheriff of Northumberland.[4]
      1419: constable of Wark.[5]
      1423: captain of Berwick.[6]
      1428: warden of Roxborough Castle[3]
      1428: King's knight.[7]
      Beaten at Battle of Piperdean (10 Sep 1436)[3][15]
      Sources

      "Bertram, John (d.1450), of Bothal, Northumb," (n.d.). The History of Parliament. The History of Parliament Trust, n.d. Web. 24 Jan. 2014.

      Bothal Conservation Area: Character Appraisal, (2008). North of England Civic Trust, (pp. 14). www.wansbeck.gov.uk. PDF.

      Burke, J. (1831). A General and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerages of England, Ireland, and Scotland, Extinct, Dormant, and in Abeyance ... England. London: H. Colburn & R. Bentley. Google Books. Web. 12 Jan. 2014.

      Burley, P., Elliot, M. & Watson, H. (2013). The Battles of St Albans: Battleground War of the Roses. pp.33. Pen and Sword. Ebook.

      Flower, W. (1881). The Visitations of Yorkshire in the Years 1563 and 1564. (pp. 233). Google Books.

      Hodgson, John, and John Hodgson-Hinde. A History of Northumberland in Three Parts: Part 2. Vol. 2. N.p.: E. Walker, 1832. Google Books. Web. 26 Jan. 2014.

      Northumberland castle and fortalices in 1415. www.gatehouse-gazetteer.info

      Ogle, H.A.(1902). Ogle and Bothal: History of the baronies of Ogle, Bothal, and Hepple. FamilySearch.org. eBook.

      Ogle, R.W. & Engler, J.F. (2012). Looking Back at the Ogle Family: A Comprehensive History and Genealogy of the Ogle and Ogles Families in America, Volume 1 (pp. I-54 - I-55). The Ogle/Ogles Family Association, Inc. Seattle, WA: The Genealogy Printing Co. Print.

      "Ogle, Sir Robert (c.1370-1436), of Ogle, Northumb," (n.d.). www.historyofparliamentonline.org.

      The Peerage.[8][9][10]

      Richardson, D. (2011). Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, (2nd ed., pp.390). Google Books. (see screenshot [11]).

      end of biography [2]
    • Northumberland Ogles ... A resume of of OGLE persons & places: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Northumberland_Ogles

      end of comment [3]

  • Sources 
    1. [S7806] "Eleanor Grey (Abt 1539 - Abt 1586" pedigree & ahnentafel.

    2. [S11912] "Sir Robert (Robert III) Ogle", Biography, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ogle-72, revisited or retrieved, recorded & upl.

    3. [S11911] "Northumberland Ogles", A resume of of OGLE persons & places:, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Northumberland_Ogl.