Sir John "The Red" Comyn, III, Lord of Badenoch

Male Abt 1269 - 1306  (~ 37 years)


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  • Name John "The Red" Comyn 
    Title Sir 
    Suffix III, Lord of Badenoch 
    Born Abt 1269  Badenoch, Isle of Skye, Inverness, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5
    Gender Male 
    Occupation 1296-1306  [2
    Also Known As Guardian of Scotland  [2
    Died 10 Feb 1306  Dumfries, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Person ID I35738  The Hennessee Family
    Last Modified 22 Oct 2013 

    Father John "Black Comyn" Comyn, II, Lord of Badenoch,   d. 0___ 1302, Lochindorb Castle, Strathspey, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Mother Eleanor de Balliol,   b. 0___ 1246 
    Married Y  [5
    Family ID F16656  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Joan de Valence,   d. 0___ 1326 
    Married Abt 1289  Badenoch, Isle of Skye, Inverness, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 4
    Children 
     1. Joan Comyn,   b. ~ 1292, (Badenoch, Isle of Skye, Inverness, Scotland) Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 1327  (Age ~ 34 years)
     2. Elizabeth Comyn,   b. 1 Nov 1299, Wyke, Axminster, Devon, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 20 Nov 1372  (Age 73 years)
    Last Modified 20 Oct 2018 
    Family ID F13157  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - Abt 1269 - Badenoch, Isle of Skye, Inverness, Scotland Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - Abt 1289 - Badenoch, Isle of Skye, Inverness, Scotland Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 10 Feb 1306 - Dumfries, Scotland Link to Google Earth
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  • Photos
    Grey Friars Church, Dumfries, Scotland
    Grey Friars Church, Dumfries, Scotland

    The alter of Grey Friar's church is the site of John's assassination by Robert the Bruce in 1306 because the Comyn family was challenging Robert for the kingship of Scotland.
    Seal of the Guardians of Scotland
    Seal of the Guardians of Scotland

    John III Comyn, Lord of Badenoch, lived from around 1270 to 10 February 1306. A man with links to both the Scottish and English royal families, he became a Guardian of Scotland at a crucial moment. He is best known for being murdered by Robert the Bruce in front of the high altar of the Greyfriars Church in Dumfries.

    23rd great grandfather of the grandchildren of Vernia Elvira Swindell Byars (1894-1985)
    greyfriarschurch.jpg
    greyfriarschurch.jpg

  • Notes 
    • Red Comyn was the son of John Comyn, ‘the Black Comyn’, one of the claimants for the Scots throne. His mother was Eleanor Balliol so King John Balliol was his uncle. The Comyns sided with the Balliols and became the enemies of the Bruces.

      John Comyn married an English noblewoman, Joan de Valence. Her father was an uncle of King Edward I.

      When Scotland was plunged into war, Robert the Bruce’s father was constable of Carlisle Castle under Edward I. The Black Comyn and the Comyn Earl of Buchan attacked Carlisle Castle in support of the Scots King Balliol.

      Red Comyn was among the Scots captured at the Battle of Dunbar in 1296. He was imprisoned in the Tower of London. After agreeing to fight for Edward in Flanders, Red Comyn deserted and sailed to Scotland. It is said that he led the cavalry at the Battle of Falkirk. The Scots cavalry at Falkirk were vastly outnumbered by English knights and mounted men at arms. They turned and rode away, leaving the Scots foot soldiers to be slaughtered by Edward I’s army.

      Red Comyn was made a guardian of Scotland alongside Robert the Bruce, after the resignation of William Wallace and the death of Andrew Moray. In 1299, at a council in Peebles, a fight broke out between Comyn and Bruce - it was reported that Comyn grabbed Bruce by the throat. Within a year Bruce had resigned the guardianship.

      When his father, the Black Comyn, died, John Comyn became Lord of Badenoch.

      In February 1303, Red Comyn and Sir Simon Fraser defeated three successive English forces at the Battle of Roslin. It is said that Wallace may have fought at the battle. The Scots drove the English knights over the steep sides of Roslin Glen and cut down their English prisoners as a second then a third force arrived. In 1304 Red Comyn was forced to make peace with Edward I.

      On 10 February 1306, Robert the Bruce and the Red Comyn fought by the high altar at Greyfriars Kirk in Dumfries. Comyn was killed and Bruce went on to become king.

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      Robert the Bruce met John Comyn, his rival for the crown of Scotland, at Greyfriars monastery in Dumfries. A row erupts and Comyn is murdered. Bruce becomes an outlaw.

      Video: A history of Scotland: Bishop Makes King. http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/history/wars_of_independence/bruce_kills_comyn_at_greyfriars_church_dumfries/

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      Fascinating biography of Red Comyn and his family's influence on Scotland's history... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_III_Comyn,_Lord_of_Badenoch

      More on John... http://www.educationscotland.gov.uk/scotlandshistory/warsofindependence/johncomyn/index.asp or
      http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/usbiography/c/johniiicomyn.html

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  • Sources 
    1. [S49424] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_II_Strathbogie,_Earl_of_Atholl.

    2. [S49425] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_III_Comyn,_Lord_of_Badenoch.

    3. [S49577] http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/usbiography/c/johniiicomyn.html.

    4. [S51746] http://www.ourfamilyhistories.org/ahnentafel.php?personID=I107165&tree=00&parentset=0&generations=12.

    5. [S9285] "John II Comyn, Lord of Badenoch" biography, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_II_Comyn,_Lord_of_Badenoch, retrieved Ma.

    6. [S49575] http://www.educationscotland.gov.uk/scotlandshistory/warsofindependence/johncomyn/index.asp.

    7. [S49498] http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/history/wars_of_independence/bruce_kills_comyn_at_greyfriars_church_dumfries/.