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unnamed spouse |
Birth |
(Yorkshire) England [1] |
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Female |
Death |
(Yorkshire, England) [1] |
Person ID |
I16664 |
The Hennessee Family |
Last Modified |
3 Jun 2015 |
Family |
Reverend Richard Denton, III, The Immigrant, b. 3 Apr 1603, Warley Town, West Yorkshire, England d. 1663, West Hempstead, Essex, England (Age 59 years) |
Marriage |
1623-1626 |
(Yorkshire) England [1] |
- Many genealogies report Richard's wife as "Helen Windebank". This is erroneous as his wife's name has not been cited in any known record - this is a case where multiple researchers have copied and reported the same misinformation, thus perpetuating the error and all the while not bothering to verify any source citation. This is nothing new as one sees this research-error over and over again...
There is a marriage record for Richard Denton & Helen Windebanke, however, the wedding date was in November 16, 1612 which is highly unlikely as this Richard Denton was born in 1603.
.. Combes states that Rev. Richard's marriage does not appear among those of the Dentons at Halifax, nor is it recorded at Bolton, Lancashire where two of his children were baptized. Probably he was married not long before he became minister at Turton, a small place about four miles north of Bolton. This would put the probable date of his marriage as between 1624 and 1626. The baptismal dates for five of his children are known, two at Bolton, Lancashire and three at Coley, Halifax, from 1627 to 1634. It is known that three of his children, Nathaniel, Samuel, and Daniel, came to the U.S., probably with their parents in 1635.
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| 1. Sarah Denton, b. 1623, Bolton le Sands, Lancashire, England |
| 2. Daniel Denton, An Immigrant, b. 1626, (Halifax, Yorkshire) England d. 1701 (Age 75 years) |
| 3. Nathaniel Denton, b. 1627-1628, Turton, Bolton, Lancashire, England d. 18 Oct 1690, Jamaica, Queens County, New York (Age 62 years) |
| 4. Admiral Samuel Denton, b. 1631, Halifax, Yorkshire, England d. 20 Mar 1713, Hempstead, Nassau County, New York (Age 82 years) |
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F5768 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Last Modified |
30 Apr 2023 |
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- Rev. Richard Denton's wife could not have been Helen Windebank.
Stefani Hennessee initiates the controversy of whom Reverend Richard Denton married;
"I have been working on the Dentons all day pretty much. I don't think you are going to like me after I tell you this (lol)....
Rev. Richard Denton's wife could not have been Helen Windebank. The Richard Denton who married Helen Windebank did so on 16 Nov 1612 (I saw you had it as 16 Nov 1617). Our Richard was born in April of 1603.
I have the birth record for him and the marriage record for the other Richard and Helen. So, that leaves the question of WHO was Richard's wife? Unfortunately, I don't think we will know. There are a few possibilities based on my search on familysearch. See the results here:
<https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3ARichard~%20%2Bsurname%3ADenton~%20%2Bmarriage_place%3AEngland%20%2Bmarriage_year%3A1612-1627~>
This pages cites several Richard DENTONs, however, there is not any WINDEBANK cited...
There are books that mention not knowing the identity of his wife as well. I have found there is also some confusion as to where he died exactly. I found a record from the Cambridge Alumni book on Ancestry.com though that mentions him returning to England and dying in Hempstead, Essex, England.
Many of the genealogy books indicate this as well. So, for now , I am just going to go with the Cambridge version of events in my tree. Also, there is no proof of a daughter Sarah. If we had definitive proof for her, we could narrow down the approximate marriage year."
Editor's conclusion(s):
There does not appear any confirming records of Helen's antecedents. Many researchers have assigned her to the familty of Thomas Windebank {1548-1607), however, there is no mention of Helen in Thomas' will or other pertinent records, i.e.;
"The Peerage", http://thepeerage.com/p17616.htm#i176159
"Tudor Place", http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/Bios/ThomasWindebank.htm
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- From: GlennsFlowerShop@aol.com
Subject: Re: [DENTON] Presidential Genealogist
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 19:21:09 EST
Glenn, do you know anything about Presidential Genealogist? I've never heard of it.
Barbara, As much as i know about this is just something i heard once on the History channel. When a President is elected, there is a group of people who do the Presidents genealogy. Apparently they do this on each President if it is not already done, Also i read once that many of our presidents are related in some distant way.
This is totally off subject, but i was also watching the History channel on a program about King Henry VIII. His nursery was run by Elizabeth Denton. They know this for sure because she signed requisitions for supplies for the nursery as head nurse. Curious huh?
Since Rev . Richard was supposedly marrying Lady Helen one can only wonder if after Henry VIII died and Charles ! took over, maybe Dentons fell from grace with the Royals and came to America for religious freedom. Of course , this is purely conjecture, but i have had this conversation with someone back a few years ago who wholeheartedly believed it. We DO know that Lady Mildred Windebank was a "Lady" , since she was descended through the royal line from King Edward II eleven generations earlier.
The copy I have states that Lady Mildred Windebank was born August 12, 1584. Haines Hill Manor, Hurst Parish, Herlot ,Berkshire England. She came to America and married Robert Reade and are George Washingtons 6th generation Grandparents.
It also states that one of her sisters was Lady Mildred Windebank, Born February 01,1596/97. Haines Hill Manor, Hurst Parish, Herlot, Berkshire, England. She Married Rev. Richard Denton.
Also many Presidents are "cousins" of English Royalty.
Didn't mean to open up this whole can of worms since NONE of this information is my personal research, but it is fun to talk about it. Maybe someone has something they can add..
Glenn
end of comment [4]
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- [S6554] "Reverend Richard Denton, II (1603-1663) ", http://www.geni.com/people/Rev-Richard-Denton-II/4295150054050067693.
- [S30] David A. Hennessee, HENNESSEE Researcher & Compiler, 626 Biscayne Drive,West Palm Beach,FL 33401, 561.832.6612, info@c.
- [S6564] Stefani Hennessee, Remitter, May 26, 2015, no1_decofan@hotmail.com.
- [S6510] http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/DENTON/2007-01/1169425269.
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