Richard Nehemiah Cates

Other Events and Attributes:

• Probate: 1670, Chardstock, Devonshire, England

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Posted By: Marilyn Cates Radelat
Email: copperdoll1@webtv.com
Subject: Re: Parents of Robert"The Shoemaker"CATE
Post Date: April 30, 2001 at 17:20:30
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Forum: Cates Family Genealogy Forum
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The logical thinking was---- where in England was Tanning of Hydes done during that period. I have relatives living in different area there. I ask them to research different facts for me. Colyton England was the answer.

Richard Nehimiah Cates was indentured to Benjamin Harrison Jr. near Henrco Co. on the James River. There are no records for him after he arrived . Presumed that he died or ran away before serving his term of indenture.
Benjamin Harrison Jr. was in the habit of "borrowing" names of imported individuals for the purpose of obtaining tracts of land under the head rights law. This was not an unusal scheme during that time.

Our Cates were not finished with Benjamin Harrison Jr. LATER some of the sons of Robert Cate Sr ( shoemaker) had the task appointed to them when Benjamin Harrison Jr. died to take inventory of his assets.

I am confident that this research from England is correct.

William Abraham and Margaret Agnes Cates had Twin Sons: born 21 August 1667, Robert Ezra Cates and Richard Nehimiah Cates .These sons were christened at Saint Andrew Church in Colyton, Devon, England . Religion was Calvinism (which soon evolved to Presbyterian )

This was researched for me in England .

This next text about Robert ( indentured servant ) is from a Book written by : Philip Alexander Bruce -1895

Robert Cate b.1667 Colyton, Devon, England "The Shoemaker" Our Ancestor

There are different dates found in this book as well as others that my cousin searched, for the exact date on the contract of Robert CATE'S Indentured service to Peter Wyke . There could be a mis-print.
Robert would have been only 12 according to the 1679 date in this one. Looking at the 1689 date and recording of OCT 1689 found by Banks Cates Jr. also on Ken Cates' site seems more reasonable. You can decide. .

Book Published 1895 Title : Economic History of Virginia - written by Philip Alexander Bruce The Mac Millian Company --Volume 2 pages 478-479
"The leading planters were in the habit of importing shoemakers from England for the same reasons that moved them to bring representatives of other trades.
Fitzhugh writing to John Cooper, one of his London correspondants,in 1662, requests him to send over to Virginia several shoemakers, with lasts,awls,and knives, together with half a hundred shoemaker threads, some twenty ot thirty gallons of train oil and proper colorings for leather. He had set up a tan-house and wished to convert the product into shoes on his own plantation.(ref 1)
The need of importing shoemakers was probably greater in the Northern Neck, in which part of the Colony Fitzhugh resided, than in the older communities, where the representatives of trade was more numerous and more skillful.
The county records of that period contained many indentures between planters and shoemakers. Of these, a fair example was the contract of Robert CATE and Peter Wyke of Henrico in 1679. CATE entered into bonds to serve Wyke for a term of four years.

He was to be exempted from task of planting and tending tobacco, but he was required to perform all other agricultural work; he was to receive by way of remunerations, food, drink, apparel, washing,and lodging, and when his agreement expired , a good suit and three barrels of Indian corn were to given him.
It will be observed that while CATE was engaged principally for his knowledge of the shoemaker's trade, he was also expected to make himself useful in other branches of industry.(ref 2)

This was probably the case with all classes of machanics who earned a livelihood in employment of landowners in the seventeenth century."

1- Reference -Letters of William Fitzhugh, July 1692 ( this was after the date 1679 mentioned in the book)
2- Reference-Records of Henrico County, bol.1688-1697, page 85, Va. State Library


( ship manifest-Bengal-Merchant of Bristol- 1689 reference - Henrico County Court Records -books by William W.Hening - Va. State Library

Go to "Colyton Town", http://www.colyton.co.uk/

Go to "Colyton Parish History Society", http://www.colytonhistory.co.uk/

1500 to 1699
Some thatched stone cottages and larger merchant's houses still survive from this era. The construction of the fine and rare octagonal lantern on top of the church tower indicates the wealth of Colyton during this period.

The Feoffees. Landowner Henry Courtney was beheaded by Henry VIII and his lands were confiscated. Local merchants and yeomen raised 1,000 marks and bargained with the Crown for the return of that portion of the estate which lay within Colyton. (1,000 marks was about 400 times the annual income of a successful merchant). The community regained the properties under a Deed of Enfeoffment on condition that an assembly of Feoffees ensured that all the income was spent on "good and commendable" uses for the community.

The Feoffees were inaugurated in 1546. To this day the Feoffees form the town council and carry out the terms of the Deed of Enfeoffment for which they are the trustees.

The Civil War. The Colyton Parish registers contain many entries of soldiers killed in skirmishes in the Civil War of 1643. Colyton was the virtual battleground being situated between the Royalists at Colcombe Castle near Axminster and the Parliamentarians stationed at Stedcombe near Lyme Regis.

Rebel Town. During the Monmouth rebellion of 1664, Colyton earned an entry in Chancery records as "the most rebellious town in Devon".

October, 2011 - Sheila & I visited Colyton and the church, St. Andrew's. Charming little town. Asked about the CATES family and apparantly the family has long since left the area...DAH

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Robert Cates;

We have concluded that Robert Ezra Cate arrived in Virginia in 1689 from his home in Colyton, Devon and that he is a son of William Abraham Cate and Margaret Agnes Ingles. But the trial has run cold with William Abraham.
I propose the following:

There is a William Cate born to William and Agnes Cate in Chardstock, Devon in 1639. This would be in the right time frame for our "William Abraham". In records of this time there are very few men named Abraham. But one stands out, Abraham Edwards. Abraham Edwards married Mary Cate and lived in Chardstock, working a tenement of land from the Bishop of Salisbury. Along with him working lands of the Bishop were Edward Cate, William Cate and Christopher Cate.

Saint Andrew Church in Colyton, Devon, England ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colyton,_Devon

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details for the will
wiltshire and swindon archives
ref no P14/32
alt ref no P14/32
title Inventory will
date 1670
William Cate
Chardstock, Devon
Probate records of Chardstock and Wambrook, Dorset

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After some additional digging we have a expanded the theory a bit.

We now think that William Abraham Cate, father of Robert Ezra Cate (the Shoemaker/Quaker) was born in 1639 as the third child of William Cate and Agnes Dummett Cate. William Cate was born in Chardstock, Dorset (just 20 miles from Colyton) the son of Christopher Cate and Margery Pyke Cate. Christopher was born around 1580 but parentage is not known. He was by 1635 a tenant farmer of the Bishop of Salisbury's lands in the Chardstock area.

Any information on the parents of Christopher Cate may help us link up to known family members going back as far as 1500.
Anyone interesting in pushing back the family line into England?

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William Abraham Cate

Have discovered my forefather William Abraham Cate born about 1640-1650. lived on Elscombe Lane near Keat's Mill in Yarcomb Parish, Devonshire. Any known records of his exact dates, parents names, anything would be appreciated. He had two sons, Robert Ezra Cate & Richard Nehimiah Cate (twins born August 21, 1667) who immigrated to VA in 1689.

Wow. I am officially tantalized.
What is the source of this info on William Abraham. I didn't have anything other than a name.

Buteo

The population studies of Colyton in the 1600s indicate that people had small families and did not start children until later in life, women average age about 25, men 30. So your time frame for William's estimated birth may be closer to 1637, plus or minus a few years. Do you know if Robert and Richard had any siblings?

Wiliam Cate/s of Coleydon
The particular information that I quoted came from genealogy.com Regional: U. S. States
Virginia Genealogy Forum posted by John Cates Oct 22, 2004. I find his research to be very accurate, if he is unsure, he will state such. Much more intensive information can be found on genealogy.com. general forums. Cate forum. FYI ,William was reportedly born in 1647.
Let me know what you can sort out from all this. I have much to read.

William Cate's wife
By the way, his wife's name was suposedly Mary Agnes Ingles. No proof.

Ingles
My information is that William Abraham married Margaret Agnes Ingles.

The 1647 date is, I believe, a conjecture and not based on any particular record. If there is a record I would be thrilled to know. The date is found in the LDS database which is why it is bandied about. But the LDS database accuracy is only as good as the accuracy of its contributors.


Are you ready for some conjecture on William?

I don't have the records yet to back this up but here is my working theory: William Abraham is the son of William Cate who married Agnes Dummett in 1633. They had several children including a William born in 1639, very close to the conjectured date for William Abraham's birth. William was, in turn, the son of Edward Cate who is, I believe the same Edward mentioned in the will of Agnes Cate created in 1621 and probated in 1627. In that will she mentions her children: Joane, Edward, Mary and Emi. I find marriage records for all four. Mary, for example married in 1613 to Abraham Edwards who apparently married her when she was pregnant from her first husband, Richard Pike, who she married in 1612. I believe it was Abrahams willingness to marry a pregnant widow and provide for her child that endeared him to the family and thus, when nephew William is naming children he names one William Abraham Cate. (The name Abraham was not at all common among any of the families in the area if you look around). Agnes cate mentions in her will her good friend: Agnes Edwards. In addition, Abraham had a tenancy on lands of the Bishop of Salisbury by 1635 and who else is there: William Cate in a co-tenancy with his own father in law: Christopher Dummett. And Edward, brother to Mary.

If this conjecture plays out then William Abraham's parents were William and Agnes Cate, grandparents were Edward and Elizabeth Cate, great grandparents were Agnes Cate (husbands name unknown but could be Peter, John or Hugh) and grandfather is William Cate, the one likely born in Colyton in 1527 and likely one of the sons of Thomas Cate (the name mentioned as the father of Robert Cate born in Colyton in 1525). By the way, Agnes Dummett was the daughter of Christopher Dummett and Thomasina Mitchell. Thomasina's parents were Alexander Mitchell and Johane (Joan) Palfraye and Johan's parents were Richard Palfraye and Florens Bolly, all from the Chardstock area.

These links are logical to me but I lack the direct records of birth,marriage,death to complete these. But the stories have held together after new data has come to light and I am getting increasiningly convinced I am on the right track. Still can't find anything on the lineage of Robert Ezra's mother though. Please take the foregoing with a great grain of salt but it is sometimes helpful to have a construct to assist in searching, so long as one is willing to change the narrative when new information upends old assumptions.

Hello, I am also working on the theory that William Abraham Cate was the son son William and Agnes Dummet . William was born 1639 according to DORSEt OPC in Chardstock. I am very interested, if you have found anything else. Also are you aware, that a William Cate of Colyton, who died 1670. Had a will, which is at Wiltshire Archives. Thank you, John

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Many of us are tracing the Cate(s) family out of America and back to England.Most Cates tracing relatives back to Virginia are able to connect with Robert Ezra Cate (the Shoemaker or The Quaker) who arrived in 1689.He and his twin Richard were christened at St Anthony's in Colyton, Devonshire in August, 1667 to parents William Abraham Cate and Margaret Agnes Ingles.But the trail has been hard to follow back to the cluster of Cate family in the early 1500s.

I have a theory that needs documentation and support to see if it is valid or at least demonstrably invalid.Here goes:

William Abraham Cate may be the William Cate born to parents William Cate and Agnes (Dummett) of Chardstock (some 20 miles away and a source of other Cate family.William was a son of Christopher Cate and Margery (Pyke) of Chardstock.His aunt Mary Cate was married to a Roger Pyke (Margery's brother?) who died while Mary was pregnant.It is believed her next husband Abraham Edwards married her either before the baby was born or soon after.Certainly the kind of act that might engender enough respect that a future child may be named in his honor.

Thus the family line in Devon would be:

Robert Ezra Catem. Mary Ann Randall (in Virginia)
William Abraham Catem. Margaret Agnes Ingles
William Catem. Agnes Dummett
Christopher Cate m. Margery Pyke (married 1614)

If this doesn't make sense then I am happy to be wrong, at least we would know this line is not an option.

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Birth:
Map & History of Colyton ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colyton,_Devon

Probate:
Map of Chardstock ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chardstock

William married Margaret Agnes Ingles(Colyton, Devonshire) England. Margaret was born in (~ 1635) in (Colyton, Devonshire) England; died in 1670 in Colyton, Devonshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Alt Birth: 1647, Linlithgow, West Lothain, Scotland

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Margaret Agnes Cates (Ingles)
Gender: Female
Birth: 1647
Linlithgow, West Lothain, Scotland
Death: 1670 (23)
Colyton, Devonshire, England
Immediate Family:
Daughter of James Ingles and Jean Ingles
Wife of William Abraham Cate
Mother of Robert Ezra (Shoemaker) Cates and Richard Nemiah Cates
Sister of Andrew Ingles; Agnes Ingles; Alexander Ingles; Dorothy Ingles; Jean Ingles and 1 other
Added by: Kim Keefe on August 14, 2007
Managed by: Michael Bishop Ebersol and 8 others

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Birth:
Map of Colyton ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colyton,_Devon

Other Events and Attributes:

• Residence: 1596, Yarcombe, Devonshire, England

Notes:

Birth:
Map of Chardstock ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chardstock

Residence:
Map & History of Yarcombe ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yarcombe

William married Agnes Dummett(Chardstock, Devonshire) England. Agnes (daughter of Christopher Dummett and Thomisa Mitchell) was born in 1550 in Chardstock, Devonshire, England; died in 1627 in Chardstock, Devonshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Notes:

Birth:
Map of Chardstock ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chardstock

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Saturday, May 21st, 2016:

Hello Sandy.

Thanks for the "heads-up" which makes sense as he named his first son, "William".

Looking forward to viewing the their wills.

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Subject: SPAM LOW: Comments (Suggest a change: Christopher Cate (I39813))

Comments (Suggest a change: Christopher Cate (I39813)): Just to let u know i believe Christopher's father and grandfather were both william . i too am descended from the Cates. i have sent for wills for both williams and their widows in the hope of proving it beyond doubt. after a new vicar came to chardstock in late 1690s all Cates became Keate. Richard my ancestor born s/o Christopher Cate died in 1688 as keate. the new vicar it seems thought that the Cates were spelled the same as his name of Keate. there r 2 other william's one Christopher's son the other Edward's son. im not sure which is which both a similar age, u will be able to confirm this on the www.chardstockwebmuseum.org webite, hope thats helpful - sandy

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June 6, 2016 5:21 AM

Proposed Change: Christopher Cate (I39813)
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Description: Hi Christopher was the son of William cate and Magdalen pinney' they married 1587 (igi) William died 1596. he was the son of George who in turn was the son of another william who died 1568 and his wife margaret. georges wife was agnes. Magdalenes father was walter pinney. i'll leave u to prove it but it may help - sandy

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Christopher married Margery Pyke(Chardstock, Devonshire) England. Margery was born in (England); died in (Chardstock, Devonshire) England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Christopher married Thomisa MitchellChardstock, Devonshire, England. Thomisa (daughter of Alexander Mitchell and Joan Palfraye) was born in Chardstock, Devonshire, England; died in Chardstock, Devonshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Birth:
Map of Chardstock ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chardstock

Alexander married Joan PalfrayeChardstock, Devonshire, England. Joan (daughter of Richard Palfraye and Florens Bolly) was born in Chardstock, Devonshire, England; died in Chardstock, Devonshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Birth:
Map of Chardstock ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chardstock

Notes:

Birth:
Map of Chardstock ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chardstock

Richard married Florens Bolly(Chardstock, Devonshire) England. Florens was born in (Chardstock, Devonshire) England; died in (Chardstock, Devonshire) England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]