William Thomas Sumpter, The Immigrant

Male 1692 - 1752  (~ 60 years)


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  1. 1.  William Thomas Sumpter, The Immigrant was born 0___ 1692, Histon, Cambridgeshire, England (son of Nicholas Sumpter, Jr. and Katherine Matthews); died 7 Jul 1752, Albermarle County, Virginia.

    Other Events:

    • Occupation: Miller
    • Birth: 18 Aug 1695, Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England

    Notes:

    Posted By: Ana Montero-Smith
    Email: amontero@bsc.net
    Subject: William Sumpter son of William Sumpter & Eliz. Patience Dulce Iveson UK>VA>NC>Ky
    Post Date: June 17, 2002 at 13:17:19
    Message URL: http://genforum.genealogy.com/sumpter/messages/553.html
    Forum: Sumpter Family Genealogy Forum
    Forum URL: http://genforum.genealogy.com/sumpter/


    My line it through John Sumpter & Catherine Van Pelt, parents of Betty Sumpter. Betty married Richard Ramsey in 1781.

    Your Cpt William Sumpter is brother to my John Sumpter. You will find your info on the first link I have listed below.
    I had posted these links on a previous message on the Sumpter website, but since then I have found one more site of interest so check out my #6 item below.

    Here are some links where I have found more info on my Ramsey & Sumpter line.

    Check out the links below to view this info:

    1. http://genforum.genealogy.com/sumpter/messages/180.html
    This site show's Betty's Sumpter's parents as John Sumpter and Catherine Van Pelt.
    John Sumpter's parents are listed as William Thomas Sumpter & Elizabeth Iveson, both from England.

    2. http://genforum.genealogy.com/sumpter/messages/5.html
    This one shows that John Sumpter's parents as William Sumpter and Elizabeth Iveson ( who supposedly lived to 111 yrs old)

    3. http://genforum.genealogy.com/sumpter/messages/49.html
    This one identifies Richard Ramsey's burial at Coopersville, Wayne Co., Ky

    4. http://genforum.genealogy.com/sumpter/messages/31.html
    This one identifies the wife of William Sumpter as Elizabeth Iveson but it states that she was married once before, so it's questionable if Iveson is her married or maiden name. Also this one has info on William Sumpter's death record ***

    5. http://genforum.genealogy.com/sumpter/messages/179.html
    This one brings up the possibility that Elizabeth Iveson's maiden name might have been Doulce, a granddaughter of Lord Bacon of England.

    6. http://genforum.genealogy.com/sumpter/messages/167.html
    This one show the parents of William Sumpter as Nicholas Sumpter and Katherine Mathews.

    7. http://genforum.genealogy.com/sumpter/messages/505.html Shows the marriage date of William Sumpter and Elizabeth Patience Dulce Iveson as 18 Jun 1729.


    I will be glad to swap info on. Please contact me if you are connected to any of these lines. Thank you

    Ana Montero-Smith
    101 Claire Drive
    Crestview, FL .32536
    amontero@bsc.net


    Posted By: Ron Hooper
    Email: ab4ru@aol.com
    Subject: William Sumpter/John/Betty/
    Post Date: September 25, 1999 at 04:26:08
    Message URL: http://genforum.genealogy.com/sumpter/messages/180.html
    Forum: Sumpter Family Genealogy Forum
    Forum URL: http://genforum.genealogy.com/sumpter/


    I descend from John Sumpter and then from his daughter Betty that married the Ramsey. Can you add any info to this line? Please e mail me at ab4ru@aol.com
    Thanks Ron
    Descendants of William Thomas Sumpter

    1 William Thomas Sumpter d: 1752 in Albemarle County, Virginia b: 1692 in Histon, Cambridgeshire, England
    . +Elizabeth Iveson m: June 18, 1729 in Hanover County, Virginia b: 1695 in England
    ........ 2 John Sumpter d: 1786 in Burke County, North Carolina b: 1733 in Albemarle County, Virginia
    ............ +Catherine Van Pelt m: 1762 d: Aft. 1809 in Burke County, North Carolina b: 1745 in Virginia Colony
    ................... 3 Betty Sumpter d: Aft. 1822 in Wayne County, Kentucky b: Abt. 1763 in Albemarle County, Virginia
    ....................... +Richard Ramsey m: 1781 in Burke County, North Carolina d: April 09, 1822 in Wayne County, Kentucky b: 1755 in Albemarle County, Virginia
    .............................. 4 Catherine Ramsey d: Aft. 1861 in Macon County, North Carolina b: 1782 in Burke County, North Carolina
    .................................. +Nathan DeHart m: November 06, 1803 in Burke County, North Carolina d: September 10, 1861 in Macon County, North Carolina b: February 23, 1781 in Rowan County, North Carolina
    .............................. 4 Ransom Ramsey
    .................................. +Elizabeth Grice
    .............................. 4 Randall Ramsey
    .............................. 4 Elizabeth Ramsey
    .............................. 4 William Ramsey
    .............................. 4 Isham Ramsey
    .............................. 4 Nancy Patsy Ramsey
    .............................. 4 Mary Polly Ramsey
    ........ 2 Thomas Sumpter d: June 01, 1832 in Statesburg, South Carolina b: August 14, 1734 in Preddy's Creek near Piney Mt, Albemarle Co, Va.
    ............ +Mary Cantey Jamenson m: 1767 d: 1817 in Statesburg, South Carolina b: 1723
    ........ 2 William Sumpter d: 1819 in Burke County, North Carolina b: October 29, 1731 in Albemarle County, Virginia
    ............ +Judith Randall
    ................... 3 William Sumpter
    ................... 3 John Sumpter
    ................... 3 Thomas Sumpter
    ................... 3 James Sumpter
    ................... 3 Fielding Sumpter
    ................... 3 Livinston Sumpter
    ................... 3 Amelia Sumpter
    ................... 3 Judith Sumpter
    ................... 3 Elizabeth Sumpter
    ........ 2 Patience Sumpter d: Abt. 1814 in Albemarle County, Virginia b: 1729 in Albemarle County, Virginia
    ............ +James Suddarth m: in Albemarle County, Virginia d: 1800 in Albemarle County, Virginia b: Abt. 1720 in Virginia
    ................... 3 Agnes Suddarth d: 1812 in Castalian Springs, Tennessee b: Abt. 1753 in Albemarle County, Virginia
    ....................... +Francis Weatherred m: Abt. 1786
    ................... 3 Mildred Suddarth d: Abt. 1810 in Sumner County, Tennessee b: Abt. 1755 in Albemarle County, Virginia
    ....................... +John Turner
    ................... 3 William Suddarth d: November 18, 1832 in Albemarle County, Virginia b: February 02, 1756 in Albemarle County, Virginia
    ....................... +Martha Patsy Pleasants m: April 01, 1786 in Goochland County, Virginia
    ................... 3 Sarah Suddarth d: July 1826 in Carthage, Smith County, Tennessee b: Abt. 1759 in Albemarle County, Virginia
    ....................... +Henry Lyon
    ................... 3 James Suddarth d: Abt. 1856 in Albemarle County, Virginia b: Abt. 1763 in Albemarle County, Virginia
    ....................... +Jane Randolph
    ........ *2nd Husband of Patience Sumpter:
    ............ +Benjamin Franklin m: Abt. 1745 d: 1751 in Albemarle County, Virginia
    ................... 3 Elizabeth Franklin
    ....................... +Clinton Coffee
    ................... 3 Anne Franklin d: Abt. 1797 in Albemarle County, Virginia
    ....................... +John Dowell
    ................... 3 Mary Franklin
    ................... 3 Dorcus Franklin d: 1800 in Albemarle County, Virginia
    ....................... +Claudius Buster
    ........ 2 Edmund Sumpter d: Aft. 1790 in Charlotte County, Virginia b: 1738 in Albemarle County, Virginia
    ............ +Anne Tackett
    ................... 3 John Sumpter d: Abt. 1855 b: Abt. 1770
    ....................... +Hannah Morrison
    .............................. 4 William Sumpter
    .............................. 4 John T Sumpter
    .................................. +Louisa E Robinson







    William Sumpter was born Abt. 1692 in England, and died 07 Jul 1752 in Virginia691. He married Elizabeth.

    Notes for William Sumpter:

    HISTORY OF THE SUMPTERS

    (From materials received from John Alexander Sumpter, 1952/1932, in the form of notes in long hand by Lois Sumpter)

    "The first Sumpters that came to North America were three brothers sent for back in England to do some fine mechanical work for the colonies or English Government. They were Father's Great Great Uncles (brothers of George Sumpter (1)). They fought in the Revolutionary War. One was quite a commandeer in that war. Our grandfather (George Washington Sumpter) was in Washington's Army. Father (Alexander Sumpter) was carried there in his mother's arms to see his Grandfather or our Great Great Grandfather (Henry Sumpter)**
    Alexander Sumpter, Sr went to the Black Hawk Indian War in 1832 and was one of a chosen party of 22 to cross the Mississippi River and follow a small band of Indians that succeeded in crossing. He was in the last battle fought in the war.

    He was in St. Louis when there were but a few houses in it and no good ones mostly Dobies and rock huts.

    His Uncle John Sumpter served 3 terms in Washington's Army in the Revolutionary War. Uncle John Sumpter's son Buckhanan Sumpter was also Captain of a cannon in the Revolutionary War under Washington. Captain Buck Sumpter disobeyed orders and won a battle. He was ordered to spike his cannon, but his judgment told him victory was near and he continued firing and when the smoke cleared away the enemy was running, but not until the Americans had burned some of their property.
    Our Great Grand Father was Henry Sumpter and his wife was Agness Dillon. They came from Virginia. They were tailors. They were "First Families of Virginia".
    Our grand Father, George Washington Sumpter and his wife, Nancy Powers, came from East Tennessee.

    John Sumpter married and lived in Souther Illinois. His children were: Ben Sumpter, Buck Sumpter, John Sumpter, Danial Sumpter. Uncle John became a very wealthy man.

    He (John Sumpter) served three terms in Revolutionary War.
    His son Buck Sumpter was commanding officer in that war.
    Danial Sumpter was with his father in the BlackHawk war.
    Polly sumptere married Robert Chopin
    Sally Sumpter married Absalem Adams
    Their son Jessie Adams lived at Marion Station, Marion County, Oregon

    Our Uncles and Aunts
    Father's (Alexander, Jr) Half-brothers:
    John sumpter
    Henry Sumpter
    Abraham Sumpter

    John Sumpter married twice.
    His first wife was Nancy Caldwell

    **Think this is misinterpretation of notes. George was born in 1776, so more likely that Henry was in Washington's Army, and George was carried there as a baby, not George's son.
    "First Families of Virginia" states that Henry was a tailor and well-to-do, with fine property

    This generation is based only on hypotheses.

    As written by Jane Sumpter Malone-George on 28 Januray 1998:

    "Thanks to Jim Landrum and his research, we have George Sumpter coming to America as an indentured servant 20 June 1721. Also, Jim found records showing a George Sumpter was christened to William and Elizabeth Sumpter 9 Feb 1699 in St. Brides Parish Fleet Street, London. The same parish from which George leaves for America. I had found the item about George the Immigrant in a book, Emigrants from England to America, 1718-1759 by Jack and Marian Kaminkow.

    The Kaminkows listed James Gerald as the English Agent who signed George to the indenture. It is my understanding that the Agents then sold the indentures to men in the colonies which could account for not finding any record of a James Gerald in early Virginia.

    The notebook written by Alexander Sumpter, Sr., of Missouri and later of Washington, stated that "Gr.Gr. Grandfather was a George Sumpter, an Englishman, a tailor by trade, a brother of Sumpters
    sent to America as carpenters by the English Government to perform a fine piece of mechanical work."

    I would like some comments on this: could William Sumpter, the father of General Sumter and family, Richard Sumpter of Manikintowne, and George, the immigrant, all be brothers who came
    to America during the early 1700s?

    As Jim Landrum wrote, Henry Sumpter who married Agnes Dillon did not name known children Richard. But John of Chesterfield did have a son Richard according to Curtis Sumpter's papers. George who married Elizabeth Gross and lived in Floyd Co,VA, did name a son Richard.

    The father of the General did not have a known son named Richard. I wonder if we can begin to organize these very early Sumpters and their ancestors by such a simple method as the names they gave their children? Of course, this is not proof but it could give us clues for further search.

    Please, let's have some thoughts about this.

    Thanks Jane Sumpter Malone-George.

    More About William Sumpter:
    Occupation: Miller - Mill on Preddy's Creek near Piney Mt. Albermarle Co., Virginia.

    Children of William Sumpter and Elizabeth are:
    +William Sumpter, b. 23 Oct 1731, d. 1819, Burke County, North Carolina.
    +John Sumpter, b. Abt. 1733, Hanover County, Virginia, d. 1787, Burke County, North Carolina.
    +Thomas O. Sumpter, b. 14 Aug 1734, Hanover County, Virginia, d. 01 Jun 1832, Statesburg, South Carolina.
    +Patience Sumpter, b. 1736, Hanover County or Albermarle County, Virginia, d. 1805, Albermarle County, Virginia.
    Edmond Sumpter, b. 1738, Preddy's Creek Settlement, Hanover County, Virginia, d. date unknown.
    Ann Sumpter, b. 1740, d. date unknown.
    +Dorcas Sumpter, b. 1742, Charlottesville, Hanover County, Virginia, d. 1800.



    Occupation:
    - Mill on Preddy's Creek near Piney Mt. Albermarle Co., Virginia

    William married Elizabeth (Iveson) 18 Jun 1729, Hanover County, Virginia. Elizabeth was born 0___ 1695, (Histon,Cambridgeshire),England; died (Albermarle County, Virginia). [Group Sheet]

    Children:
    1. John Sumpter was born 0___ 1733, Hanover County, Virginia; died 0___ 1786, Burke County, North Carolina.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Nicholas Sumpter, Jr. was born Abt 1669, (Cambridgeshire) England (son of Nicholas Sumpter, Sr. and Mary LNU); died Abt 1728, Histon, Cambridgeshire, England.

    Nicholas married Katherine Matthews (Cambridgeshire) England. Katherine was born Abt 1673, (Cambridgeshire) England; died Abt 1728, Histon, Cambridgeshire, England. [Group Sheet]


  2. 3.  Katherine Matthews was born Abt 1673, (Cambridgeshire) England; died Abt 1728, Histon, Cambridgeshire, England.
    Children:
    1. 1. William Thomas Sumpter, The Immigrant was born 0___ 1692, Histon, Cambridgeshire, England; died 7 Jul 1752, Albermarle County, Virginia.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Nicholas Sumpter, Sr. was born Abt 1649, Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England; died 31 Aug 1693, Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England.

    Nicholas married Mary LNU (Cambridgeshire) England. [Group Sheet]


  2. 5.  Mary LNU
    Children:
    1. 2. Nicholas Sumpter, Jr. was born Abt 1669, (Cambridgeshire) England; died Abt 1728, Histon, Cambridgeshire, England.